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Gee, that's just peaches and cream.
Gosh.
Man. There's one thing I will always disagree with you about, Robert. At least one thing.
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These "social sins" include environmental pollution, genetic manipulation, obscene wealth, infliction of poverty, drug trafficking, morally debatable experiments, and violation of the fundamental rights of human nature.


Last year, Robert was talking about the modern deadly sins the pope came out with, and he was talking about how ridiculous that "littering" was one of them.

And ... it kind of is. But it's not. Environmental pollution is, in my opinion, one of the greediest, laziest things you can do. It's not something that doesn't matter. And I think people need to realize that. Yes, littering every once in a while isn't a deadly sin worthy thing, but having a general apathetic attitude towards the environment is a bad thing. Again, selfish and lazy. There are other animals that want to live, and there are other humans who want to live. Yah know, the whole famine and drought thing going on in Africa getting worse due to global warming. And ... I kind of want to live, too. I realize I'm not captain planet, our family generates a lot of trash. But I try to do what I can. I could do more, but I do some, and I don't have a complete disregard for such things.

Don't worry, Robert, if you read this. You're still awesome in your own way. I just think some of your views are a bit stubborn and greedy.

(that wasn't meant to be an insult)






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commentCommented on: Thu Sep 25, 2008 @ 05:07am
I guarantee you that the majority of Catholics who said that littering was not deserving of being a deadly sin said so only because they have done it themselves.
Almost everyone litters at some point. And everyone also pollutes.
Still isn't right though, and I think that rule was put in because the church was getting a negative image from some of their members.

This is a small-scale Church Reformation. I almost consider this a counter-reformation in some ways. This one is different though and I am frankly glad to see the church is losing: it's a battle between Christianity and Atheism.
The number of Atheists are steadily increasing because of the technological world we live in. More people want to move towards out Technological Renaissance, but the only way to do that is to be unhindered. Christianity is a hinderence. Any West-European religion is a hinderence.

I disagree with the massive emphasis on DNA and stem cell manipulation. The church is losing a lot of followers because of its negative opinion on modern science. They have throughout history considered the sciences taboo and they will always be that way. They will never change.

I have to commend them for their mentioning of obscene wealth, littering, infliction of poverty, and violations of rights of human nature.
Although, the church is a perfect example of obscene wealth. But I digress.
Did I mention I didn’t like the church?



And I say beyond stubborn. I would consider it ignorance and hypocrisy!
(Also not really an insult, but you can take it as you want it. To me, it's just criticism)


commentCommented on: Thu Sep 25, 2008 @ 06:15am
I agree with the sins that you admonished and advocated. (I am so awesome.) I considered writing about those too, but then dinner was served.

I really do think that the church contributes a lot of bad to the world in a lot of ways. I'm not saying they're evil, I'm just saying that organized religion isn't really all too neccessary, and honestly, it just brainwashes people. I think that if people want to worship a god, that there should be no giant organization with priests and popes and ordinances and such. Just religion.

I'm a bit iffy on the "morally debatable experiments" thing. Obviously they're talking about stem cell research, which I support, but there is a line when you conduct experiments, which is an important thing to remember. (example: the stanford prison experiment)

But the church is going to remain because of stubborn, ignorant, and hippocritical people who drive it.

As far as eastern religions go, Buddhism is definately a win religion. Dunno much about traditional chinese, only know some about traditional japanese, only know some about hinduism, but Buddhism is absolutely win. The Buddhist mindset is great, and I try to follow it as much as I can. I think it's much healthier than the average Christian mindset.



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commentCommented on: Thu Sep 25, 2008 @ 06:43am
......I actually thought the Stanford prison experiment was very valuable and interesting. It is not really what I would consider an unacceptable experiment. I would just consider it a questionable experiment. I think the results justified the procedures.

That 1/4 German in me is screaming right now.


I don't want to say I follow Buddhism, because that would be unfair to real Buddhists. I don't think that people who try to be good to others are following the principles of karma. They are following the principles of human decency. Karma is the idea of going beyond that.
Hinduism has great principles too. I just dislike the caste system.

I am happy as a geologic nihilist. If you have the right mindset, you can understand how to live life very easily.
I love the saying: If your life sucks, why should the afterlife be any better?
Well said.
of course........I believe in no afterlife whatsoever. I think the afterlife is just a way for people who have wasted their entire life to feel like they can still make it all up.


commentCommented on: Fri Sep 26, 2008 @ 01:47am
There's a lot of arguments over how valuable or credible the data is from that experiment ... but not wanting to get into it ... (It's pretty interesting, the arguments, you should look them up.)

I don't follow Buddhism ,really, I just like they're way of thinking. Before I even knew of Buddhism, I've tried to set myself to an ideal I came up with to basically be the best person I can be. The most important part of my personal philosophy is that I try to be objective and understand where other people are coming from before I act. I don't always do it, but I try. If I ever did decide I wanted to get a religion, though, definitly Buddhism for me.

The caste system is easy to dislike.

Another use of the afterlife: keep everyone in life. If you know you're going to hell if you don't do what the church says, you aren't likely to argue. (well, if you believe that) It's also a lot more comforting to think that you can live forever, rather than just becoming fertilizer.



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commentCommented on: Fri Sep 26, 2008 @ 03:10am
I am going to be posting the most awesome religion ever in awhile with some pictures.
A branch of Johovah's witness.....


commentCommented on: Fri Sep 26, 2008 @ 06:00am
I don't know what you are referring to ...



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commentCommented on: Sat Oct 04, 2008 @ 12:29am
I didn't say that they were BAD...I just thought that the whole idea of making up new deadly sins is idiotic. Fortunately they weren't real, but the concept if they were made into real sins is stupid. So yeah...I agree that being ignorant about pollution and such is...well...ignorant. Just the whole 'religious' aspect of it was kind of stupid. Like I said...Religion in my context is simply a list of guidlines and good morals. It encourages people to do the right thing...and I pity the people who fail to see that it is simply JUST that.


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